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Knife Sharpening / Re: KnifeGrinders Fprmula Question...
« on: November 16, 2021, 01:22:10 am »
I have a TSProf and Wicked Edge.  I used the marker method and both were very close to 17.5*.

I'll go with "A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure." :)

But seriously, I don't necessarily think you're doing anything wrong.  When you start measuring with 2 different methods, it introduces a lot you'd have to check to see where the problem is.  Plus, I know I've said elsewhere, I've never considered the settings on the Tormek to be spot on accurate. (I wrote +- 1 degree somewhere).  (The difference between 16-17.5 deg. is 2mm).  For example, one potential source of difference is that your machine has to have the exact measurements as the machine KG used for everything to match.  And having experience with the W.E., the same applies there too, there are potential sources of differences, and accuracy has some variance.

You might try using a calculator, like the Calcapp (link in my signature) or the TormekCalc spread sheet, and measure directly to the wheel, to see if that makes a difference, this eliminates one possible difference (the machine measurements).  I've had good luck matching other devices... (I think it's a bit more accurate, but still has its limits).  You could also try setting the W.E. or TS Prof to 16 deg. and see if it is really that far off, or if after a swipe or two, it matches the bevel (if that makes sense).  And it probably goes without saying to double check all measurements, settings, etc. on all machines.

Or wait and see if someone has a better idea.   8)

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Knife Sharpening / Re: KnifeGrinders Fprmula Question...
« on: November 16, 2021, 12:35:24 am »
I'm trying to use my Supergrind 2005 to do regrinds to finish on my guided knife sharpener.  Problem is, I set up the Tormek using KG app, for a 16*dps, but when I check the angle on my other sharpeners, it comes up 17.5*.  What am I doing wrong?

What do you mean "when I check the angle on my other sharpeners, it comes up 17.5*"  What other sharpeners, and how do you check it?

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Knife Sharpening / Re: Leather Wheel Drying Out
« on: November 15, 2021, 01:54:33 pm »
I am having issues with the Tormek Leather Wheel drying out, at least I think that is the issue. I live in a very dry environment, with little humidity and I suspect the wheel is drying quickly. The SG takes a lot of water each time I used it (2-3 times a week) and the leather wheel is always black and doesn't feel right.
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My .02, when the leather wheel gets smooth and 'black', that is when it works best.  If you feel the wheel is too dry (I too live in a dry climate), you can add a little oil. (Just don't overdue it).  Or just a light coating of Tormek compound maybe a little more often, (which has oil in it), should keep it going.

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I was thinking of switching to the composite wheel or possibly a felt wheel, I not sure which would be best.

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The composite wheel is a nice addition, mainly 'cause it's maintenance free, and does do a good job.  Of the two, I'd vote for the composite.


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Knife Sharpening / Re: Sabtier Damast does not work
« on: November 14, 2021, 09:14:54 pm »
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As for the naming conventions - I think there was some some diagram around, but can't find it right now. Usually we talk about 'dps' (=degrees per side), which leaves little room for misunderstanding.

Mike


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General Tormek Questions / Re: RBS-140 Round Blade Sharpening Attachment
« on: November 13, 2021, 02:59:47 pm »
I found a rotary blade thread from 2009 and have just seen this attachment for the t2 and wondered if there was anything similar that someone has made for a t4/t8.

My daughter has an olfa rotary cutter with round 45 mm blades she uses for cutting fabric for quilting etc. As these seem to be the weapon of choice these days for all kinds of fabric cutting (judging from sewing programmes) i wondered if anyone had come across solutions that work.  I think it needs descent bearings as you rotate the blades. I can buy replacements but...

Rich shows how to modify a jig on his website, that might work....

https://sharpeninghandbook.info/GT-Rotary-Cutter.html

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General Tormek Questions / Re: A few months with the Tormek ...
« on: November 12, 2021, 02:51:56 pm »
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 Then I noticed that when I put some force onto the US-105 (I need to buy a US-430), the resonance would change. I suspect that the vertical rods are vibrating in the holes. Will try fixating them with cable tiers or such to see if this helps.

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This part seems odd to me.... tightening the locking screws for the USB should eliminate any vibration... at least that is my experience.  What would you secure with cable ties?   ???   (My curiosity is aroused).

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Knife Sharpening / Re: My FVB Build
« on: November 12, 2021, 02:48:32 pm »
I was meaning more in general, a compilation of all the really valuable threads (like 'To Pivot or Not Pivot'). Jigs and mods like Herman's knife grinding platform and the USB to stone measuring solutions.

If people were keen I'd be happy to list all the threads I've found incredibly useful. The pivot thread alone saved me untold time.

I say, go for it. ;)

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Tormek T-1 and T-2 / Re: Evenness of bevel width with T1/T2
« on: November 12, 2021, 02:47:14 pm »
We recently had some questions about the evenness of the bevel with the new T1. With the jig design of the T1, lifting to grind a curved top is not possible. Does this mean wider bevels at the tip? I decided to find out.

I do not have a T1; however, I do have a T2, which has essentially the same knife jig as the T1. I sharpened my 8” Victorinox chef's knife with my T2. the bevel looks even over its entire length.

I did not think that Tormek would sell a machine which could not produce an even bevel; however, seeing is believing.

Ken

Again, based more on the geometry of the knife (taper spine to edge, heel to tip, etc.), and as stated in the other thread, with most kitchen knives, the result will be minimal if at all, which is what the T-1/T-2 is designed for.

But there's nothing special about the sharpeners that will compensate for this, (other than maybe the fact that the guide limits the type of knives that can be sharpened?)... and one knife that meets the parameters, won't show a change.  (It just seems a bit misleading to say one knife didn't show a change, so no knife will?)


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Knife Sharpening / Re: Finding the angle
« on: November 11, 2021, 03:58:23 pm »
Lol, CBW,
again we agree like cats and dogs.... :) :)

Yeah... but you give a better answer. ;)

(Use a calculator).... ↓ ;)


Can you name two or three different ones.
One I tried with the mobile (SharpCalc) had a great different to the WM-200. A gap with 4mm.

Pietje

The link in my signature is one...

https://connect.calcapp.net/?app=qq0pg0#/


... jvh's TormekCalc2 is another one I recommend...

https://www.tormek.com/forum/index.php?topic=4181.0

... it takes a bit to learn, but is pretty detailed.

Keep in mind what micha said, that the WM-200 doesn't account for blade taper angle from spine to edge so it will give an incorrect reading, and can be several degrees different.  The calculators give the actual angle of the edge to the stone.  I can guarantee that if used correctly, the calculator will give you the correct (and more accurate) answer.

p.s.  TormekCalc has a German translation... (you can change the language in the settings of the spreadsheet)

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Knife Sharpening / Re: Finding the angle
« on: November 11, 2021, 03:12:18 pm »
Hey folks!
With my new T-8 I have a problem to find the right angle.
Putting the WM-200 on the blade, it shows the 20° Angle. With the same configuration I put a levelbox on the blade, the angle is around 50°.
What is the mistake?

Thanks
Pietje

My guess...

The WM-200 shows the angle in relation to the stone... the "levelbox" does not.  So if you're using the levelbox while the knife is on the stone, it will be incorrect.

(Use a calculator).... ↓ ;)

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General Tormek Questions / Re: Off Topic: How to Build a Shed
« on: November 11, 2021, 02:34:30 pm »
(You might want to look at the date of the thread)...  ::)

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Knife Sharpening / Re: My FVB Build
« on: November 11, 2021, 12:25:36 am »
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Is there a compilation anywhere in the forum of mods like this and the FVB? I've been searching through old threads for a while, and was thinking it'd be helpful to have a sticky here similar to what's available on SharpeningHandbook.

There is FVB examples in this thread (if that's what you're looking for)...

https://www.tormek.com/forum/index.php?topic=2635.0

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General Tormek Questions / Re: A few months with the Tormek ...
« on: November 10, 2021, 02:57:43 pm »
Rick, your link is broken… did you mean this one?

https://www.tormek.com/forum/index.php?topic=4187.0

Bending the legs as suggested in the other thread worked for me… sad (and a bit scary) that it has to be done on an expensive machine, but it worked.  Some of the other solutions like padding bottom helped also.  (I agree that it’s a poor design).

Like Rick, I don’t understand the part about not being able to remove the honing wheel?

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Knife Sharpening / Re: How sharp can you go on the standard setup?
« on: November 09, 2021, 02:46:56 pm »

Sry to correct u Nick, results from Bess Tester has nothing to do with tension of the wire.
it belongs on how fast u pull down ur knife on the wire.
if u can watch the numbers going slowly upwards u will have almost same result  no matter witch tension is on the wire

cheers
Hanns

Even the company who makes the BESS tester doesn't agree with this....  ;)

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Knife Sharpening / Re: How sharp can you go on the standard setup?
« on: November 08, 2021, 02:18:04 pm »
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I'm still struggling with setting edge angles as the Angle Master provided with the T8 is soooooo hard to use to set the cutting bevel. Right now I'm either replicating angles or only adjusting them slightly.

I'm learning very quickly that the production folders generally have pretty wonky geometry and their cutting edges are not terribly neat!

Any advice is warmly welcomed.

I  can't answer the BESS questions, but for setting the angle, I suggest using one of the calculators... an example is linked in my signature.  Way more accurate for setting angles on a knife, especially vs. the Anglemaster.

(And you're right about production folder geometry). ;)

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